Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

05/12/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 201 USE OF INTERNET FOR CHARITABLE GAMING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 204 HUNTING PERMIT/TAG AUCTIONS/RAFFLES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 204(RES)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to auctions or raffles for hunting                                                                        
     harvest permits and big game tags; and providing for                                                                       
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:04:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick indicated  that  the committee  previously                                                                    
heard  the bill  on May  10, 2022,  and the  committee would                                                                    
take up one amendment. She asked  for a review of the fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
EDDIE GRASSER, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF WILDLIFE CONSERVATION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  FISH AND GAME (via  teleconference), reviewed                                                                    
the published  zero fiscal note  for the Department  of Fish                                                                    
and  Game   (DFG)  (FN1   (DFG)  appropriated   to  Wildlife                                                                    
Conservation He relayed  that there would not be  a drain on                                                                    
the state's coffers as a  result of the bill. The department                                                                    
expected   to  bring   in  significant   revenue  with   the                                                                    
legislation. He furthered that in  the prior year the raffle                                                                    
brought in over $1 million,  and the department had received                                                                    
revenues of $1 million so far for the current year.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:06:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment 1,  32-                                                                    
LS1319\W.3 (Bullard, 5/11/22) (copy on file):                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1, following "permits":                                                                                       
     Insert ",bear viewing permits,"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 3:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
     "*Section 1.  AS 16.05.130 is  amended by adding  a new                                                                    
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
     (h) Money  accruing to  the state  from the  auction or                                                                    
     raffle of  bear viewing  permits under  AS 16.05.343(c)                                                                    
     shall be deposited  in a separate account  known as the                                                                    
     nongame  conservation  account  in the  fish  and  game                                                                    
     fund.  Money  n  the  account  shall  be  allocated  to                                                                    
     programs relating to  wildlife sanctuaries and refuges,                                                                    
     fish   and   wildlife  diversity,   wildlife   viewing,                                                                    
     educational programs, and related outreach efforts."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Pate 1, line 4:                                                                                                            
     Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                         
     Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  explained   the  amendment.   He                                                                    
indicated that  the purpose of  the amendment was  to direct                                                                    
the  proceeds of  the raffle  to  a new  account within  the                                                                    
existing DFG fund. Funds from  the new account could only be                                                                    
spent  on programs  related to  state wildlife  sanctuaries,                                                                    
refuges,  wildlife  viewing,  and educational  programs.  He                                                                    
stated  that  the  sponsor and  Mr.  Grasser  supported  the                                                                    
amendment.  He  noted that  the  goal  of  the bill  was  to                                                                    
increase the  fund raising capacity to  match federal funds.                                                                    
He  reasoned  that  the amendment  would  advance  the  goal                                                                    
because it appealed  to raffle customers that  wanted to win                                                                    
a  permit to  view  bears  at the  McNeil  River State  Game                                                                    
Sanctuary and  Refuge. He believed that  the amendment would                                                                    
result  in  increased  ticket sales  and  more  revenue.  He                                                                    
reported  that similar  sub-accounts  in the  Fish and  Game                                                                    
Fund  in Title  16, AS  16.05 currently  existed in  statute                                                                    
that directed proceeds to waterfowl,  fur bears, and general                                                                    
hunting trapping  and fishing. He asked  for the committees                                                                     
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson  asked   if  the   fund  would   be                                                                    
dedicated.   Representative   Josephson  answered   in   the                                                                    
negative  and surmised  that it  was a  designated fund.  He                                                                    
added  that  the  language  in  the  amendment  mirrored  AS                                                                    
16.05.130 pertaining to the diversion  of funds. He restated                                                                    
that  similar  language   currently  existed  for  waterfowl                                                                    
conservation,  the sale  of resident  trapping licenses  and                                                                    
general  hunting, trapping,  and fishing  licenses, and  the                                                                    
Intensive  Management  (IM)  surcharge.  The  amendment  was                                                                    
aligned with the corollary programs he listed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:08:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grasser   stated  that  Representative   Josephson  was                                                                    
correct,  and  the  amendment  would  add  language  to  the                                                                    
existing statutes for the diversion  of funds for management                                                                    
projects.  He responded  that  the Fish  and  Game Fund  was                                                                    
dedicated  and was  protected by  the  Constitution and  the                                                                    
Statehood Act.  He elaborated  that the  money put  into the                                                                    
fund could  be used for  a diverse number of  activities. He                                                                    
noted  that the  first activity  adopted under  AS 16.05.130                                                                    
was for  a waterfowl  stamp program.  He concurred  that the                                                                    
amendment  aligned  with  the diversion  of  funds  statute.                                                                    
Representative  Johnson asked  if the  proposed new  account                                                                    
would be a subaccount under  the dedicated fund. Mr. Grasser                                                                    
answered in  the affirmative  and added that  it would  be a                                                                    
dedication of a dedicated fund.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked to hear from  the bill sponsor's                                                                    
staff to confirm the senator was amenable to the amendment.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EMMA  TORKELSON,   STAFF,  SENATOR  REVAK,   confirmed  that                                                                    
Senator Revak was supportive of Amendment 1.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:10:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson reiterated  that the  division and                                                                    
sponsor supported the  amendment. He did not  mean to create                                                                    
confusion  when  he stated  it  was  a designated  fund.  He                                                                    
maintained that  pre-statehood funds were allowed  under the                                                                    
Constitution  as dedicated  funds.  He  elucidated that  the                                                                    
additions to  the original Fish  and Game Fund  statute were                                                                    
made in 1979. 1984, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2005, and 2016.                                                                           
He concluded that the proposal was not prohibited.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter agreed  that the  fund itself  was                                                                    
dedicated.  He believed  that some  of the  additional funds                                                                    
into the account were not protected from the sweep.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grasser  was  unsure  that  Representative  Carpenters                                                                     
comment was  correct. He understood  that the Fish  and Game                                                                    
Fund was  protected in the  Constitution and not  allowed to                                                                    
be swept.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB  204  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick reviewed  the schedule  for the  following                                                                    
morning.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 201 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051222_.pdf HFIN 5/12/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 201
SB 204 Amendment 1 Josephson 051222.pdf HFIN 5/12/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 204
SB 201 Amendments 1-4 051222.pdf HFIN 5/12/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 201
SB 201 Amendment 5 Johnson Wool 051222.pdf HFIN 5/12/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 201
HB 66 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051222_.pdf HFIN 5/12/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 66